Lawerence and Leo explore the choices that defined Joel, from his time as a single father to becoming a ruthless hunter and smuggler.
They discuss Joel's life before the CBI infection (2:31), how the death of Sarah affects him (9:06), and his astronomically high kill count (16:04).
This is an [Expert] level episode, which means some parts of the discussion may not make sense unless you’ve played the game. Expect lots of spoilers.