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Between 1956 and 1984, thousands of unmarried, pregnant women in the Netherlands were forced to give their babies away. This podcast discovers this dark chapter of Dutch history by hearing...
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Between 1956 and 1984, thousands of unmarried, pregnant women in the Netherlands were forced to give their babies away. This podcast discovers this dark chapter of Dutch history by hearing the experience of the women as well as the children. Furthermore, legal experts and historians will explain the social situation during that time in order to give attention to the injustice that has been done to Dutch women and their children for decades.
Please support us by listening and sharing this podcast - so the afstandsmoeders and children can finally get the justice they deserve.
Producer and presented by Sarah Tekath
Production partner: Stichting Broadcast Amsterdam (https://broadcastamsterdam.nl)
[Photo by Molly Blackbird on Unsplash]
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Please support us by listening and sharing this podcast - so the afstandsmoeders and children can finally get the justice they deserve.
Producer and presented by Sarah Tekath
Production partner: Stichting Broadcast Amsterdam (https://broadcastamsterdam.nl)
[Photo by Molly Blackbird on Unsplash]
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Separated by Force: Afstandsmoeders in the Netherlands
Separated by Force: Afstandsmoeders in the Netherlands
26 AUG 2021 · Net zoals discriminatie van vrouwen in Nederland en de rest van de wereld nog steeds problematisch is, zo ook het systeem van (internationale) adoptie. Bijna niemand weet dit zo goed als Ina Hut.
Van 2003 tot 2009 was zij directeur van Wereldkinderen, een van de grootste adoptiebureaus van Nederland. Tijdens haar periode bij deze organisatie begon ze met onderzoek naar de achtergronden van adopties van kinderen uit China en werd ze meerdere keren onder druk gezet door het Nederlandse ministerie van Justitie om haar onderzoek onmiddellijk te stoppen, dit op straffe van het intrekken van de vergunning van Wereldkinderen7. Zij nam in 2009 als klokkenluider publiekelijk ontslag als directeur. Dit kreeg veel media-aandacht en leidde tot een Algemeen Overleg in de Tweede Kamer, waarbij de minister van Justitie zich o.a. moest verantwoorden over de intimidatie van Ina Hut. Ina Hut schreef ten behoeve van dit overleg een rapport over het systeem van interlandelijk adopties (o.a. uit China).
Ina Hut is sinds 2015 directeur van het Coördinatiecentrum Mensenhandel (CoMensha en expert opinion leader in de strijd tegen mensenhandel.
Website Coördinatiecentrum Mensenhandel/ Coördinatiecentrum Mensenhandel: https://www.comensha.nl/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
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26 AUG 2021 · Just as discrimination against women in the Netherlands and around the world is still problematic, so can the system of (international) adoption be problematic. Hardly anyone knows this as well as Ina Hut.
From 2003 till 2009 she was the Executive Director of the organisation Wereldkinderen, one of the biggest adoption agencies in the Netherlands. During her time at this organisation, she started to investigate the background of adoptions of children from China and was multiple times pressured by the Dutch ministry of justice to put her investigation to an immediate stop on pain of revoking the license of Wereldkinderen.
In 2009 she resigned from her position as the Executive Director as a whistleblower which got a lot of media attention in the Netherlands and forced the minister of justice to face his responsibilities in the Tweede Kamer oft he Dutch parliament a.o. for trying to intimidate Ina Hut. For this debate she wrote a report about the system of intercountry adoptions (a.o. from China). Since 2015 is Ina Hut Executive Director of the Dutch Coördinatiecentrum against Mensenhandel (CoMensha) and expert opinion leader in the fight against human trafficking.
Website Coordinationcenter against Human Trafficking/ Coördinatiecentrum tegen Mensenhandel: https://www.comensha.nl/
Special thanks for the voice-over to Martina Novak: https://www.martinan.com/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · In this podcast, we have learned about the discrimination of unmarried pregnant women between 1956 and 1984. Is it now safe to say that things are all good for (pregnant/unmarried) women in the Netherlands? Unfortunately, not quite. There is still a lot of work today. Legal advisor Linde Bryk of Bureau Clara Wichmann explains in this episode, why discrimination of women in the Netherlands is still an issue.
Website Bureau Clara Wichmann: https://clara-wichmann.nl/
Website Juridisch Loket: https://www.juridischloket.nl/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · Deze aflevering gaat in op de aspecten van institutioneel geweld en hertraumatisering van de afstandsmoeders en afstandskinderen in Nederland, aangezien hun reis natuurlijk niet eindigde op het moment dat ze het moeder-baby-huis hebben verlaten. Verschillende situaties in hun leven kunnen aanleiding zijn voor wat er in het verleden is gebeurd.
Dr. Sietske Dijkstra is psycholoog en ze werkte tien jaar als onderzoeker bij de universiteit Utrecht, bij de afdeling vrouwenstudies, met focus op huiselijk geweld, seksueel misbruik en de langetermijngevolgen ervan.
Ze is een professionele onderzoeker en docent met focus op de thema's misbruik, relationele veiligheid en trauma. 1998 richtte ze Bureau Dijkstra op waar ze onder meer onderzoek doet naar huiselijk geweld, gendergerelateerd geweld, interventie en complexe scheiding.
Van 2010 tot december 2012 was ze lid van de Commissie Samson, die onderzoek deed naar seksueel misbruik in de pleegzorg en de residentiële jeugdzorg sinds 1945.
Website Dr. Sietske Dijkstra: http://www.sietske-dijkstra.com/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
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26 AUG 2021 · This episode is going to focus on the aspects of institutional violence and retraumatisation of the Afstandsmoeders and Afstandskinderen in the Netherlands as – obviously – their journey did not end the moment they have left the mother-baby-homes. Several situations in their lives can be triggers of what has happened in the past.
Dr. Sietske Dijkstra is a psychologist and was working at the University of Utrecht for ten years in the field of women studies, specifically domestic violence, sexual abuse and its long term consequences. She is a professional researcher with focus on the topics of violation, safety and trauma. In the year 1998, she has founded the Dijkstra Agency that researches among others domestic violence, gender-based violence and high conflict divorce. Furthermore, Sietske Dijkstra was part of the Commission Samson in the Netherlands that was investigating sexual abuse of children in residential and foster care after 1945.
Website Dr. Sietske Dijkstra: http://www.sietske-dijkstra.com/
Special thanks for the voice-over to Martina Novak: https://www.martinan.com/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · Also in Ireland women and their children were separated by force. German freelance journalist Mareike Graepel is going to explain in this episode, how the system in Ireland worked and why the catholic church had a crucial part in it. In the second part of this episode, we are going to meet Clodagh Malone who was born in the St. Patrick mother baby home in Dublin as well as Maggie Corbett who gave birth tot wo daughters in 1976 and 1978 in the Bessborough mother and baby home in Cork.
*Trigger warning:* In this episode, Maggie Corbett is going to strong emotions while sharing her personal experience. Please make sure to protect yourself when listening to this episode.
Facebook group Beyond Adoption by Clodagh Malone: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1401425226786665/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · ‚Kinder waren in der DDR immer politisch‘. In dieser Folge sprechen Journalistin Anne Klesse und Afstandsmoeder und Aktivistin Regina Labahn über das politisch-legitimierte System in der DDR, Familie, die nicht systemtreu waren, die Kinder wegzunehmen und stattdessen in systemtreue Familien zu geben.
Anne Klesse hat in 2009 für die Berliner Morgenpost zu DDR-Kindern recherchiert und hat dabei zahlreiche Betroffene interviewt. Regina Labahn war in der DDR viele Jahre im Frauenzuchthaus Hoheneck als politische Gefangene inhaftiert, während ihre Kinder in Kinderheimen blieben. Heute ist Regina Labahn Mitglied des Frauenkreises der ehemaligen Hoheneckerinnen, der sich für die Belange der ehemaligen Häftlinge und die Aufarbeitung der zweiten deutschen Diktatur einsetzt.
Website Frauenkreis der ehemaligen Hoheneckerinnen: http://www.frauenkreis-hoheneckerinnen.de/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · 'Children were always political in the GDR'. In this episode, journalist Anne Klesse and Afstandsmoeder and activist Regina Labahn talk about the politically legitimized system in the GDR, families who were not loyal to the system, taking their children away and instead giving them to families loyal to the system.
Anne Klesse researched GDR children for the Berliner Morgenpost in 2009 and interviewed numerous victims. Regina Labahn was imprisoned as a political prisoner in the Hoheneck women's penitentiary for many years, while her children remained in children's homes. Today Regina Labahn is a member of the women's group of the former Hoheneckerinnen, which advocates the concerns of the former prisoners and the coming to terms with the second German dictatorship.
Website organisation of women previously imprisoned in Hoheneck: http://www.frauenkreis-hoheneckerinnen.de/
Special thanks for the voice-over to Martina Novak: https://www.martinan.com/
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · Nadat we ons in de vorige afleveringen hebben gefocust op afstandsmoeders, gaan we het nu hebben over afstandskinderen. Dr. Eugénie Smits van Waesberghe is één van hen. Ze werd geboren in het moeder-kind-tehuis Moederheil in Breda. Ze publiceerde meerdere boeken over afstandsmoeders en afstandskinderen en is als ervaringsdeskundige aanwezig in de Nederlandse media en het lopende onderzoek door de Nederlandse autoriteiten.
Kijk voor meer informatie op: https://eugeniesmitsvanwaesberghe.nl/
*Disclaimer:* Eugénie wil het volgende nog toevoegen aan de vraag wat er is gebeurd met de baby's die nooit zijn geadopteerd: „Ze kwamen in een pleeggezin of verbleven in tehuizen en internaten. Ze zouden ongeschikt zijn voor het Nederlandse adoptiesysteem. Niemand zou ze willen. Dus je neemt een kind bij de geboorte weg van zijn moeder en dan stop je het in een tehuis, omdat je denkt dat als de moeder niet deugt of een (ongevraagde/ onterechte) diagnose heeft gekregen (neurotisch, dwangmatig, psychotisch, zwakzinnig of debiel), dit ook voor de zoon of dochter zou gelden. Niemand kan zeggen of de moeders van deze kinderen ooit te weten zijn gekomen dat hun kind nooit is geadopeerd en in het systeem van de jeugdzorg is verdwenen. Sommige baby’s en kinderen zijn in het tehuis voor ongehuwde moeders, een ziekenhuis of andere instelling vaak moederziel alleen gestorven. Sommigen waren naamloos. Het is mogelijk dat de moeders van deze kinderen dat niet weten, nooit zullen weten. Ondertussen rouwen zij om het verlies en gemis van hun kind of zelfs: kinderen. Dat vind ik buitengewoon wreed.
Aanvullende informatie van Eugénie: “Op basis van diverse onderzoeken en schriftelijke bronnen kan er een reële schatting worden gedaan van het aantal afstandskinderen tussen 1956 en 1984 in Nederland. Het gaat om minimaal 25.000 afstandskinderen. Daarvan zijn er in de genoemde periode 15.000 wettelijk geadopteerd. Het betekent dat naast de 15.000 binnenlands geadopteerden er vermoedelijk 10.000 kinderen na de scheiding van de moeder op andere plaatsen terecht zijn gekomen, varierend van een plek binnen de eigen familie tot jeugdinternaten. Dit betekent dat de tot het tot dusverre gehanteerde aantal van ruim 13.000 afstandsmoeders een veelvoud bedraagt. Er zijn moeders die meer dan 1 kind hebben moeten afstaan. Dat geldt ook voor de vaders/ verwekkers.
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
26 AUG 2021 · After we have focussed on afstandsmoeders in the previous episodes, we will now talk about afstandskinderen. Dr. Eugénie Smits van Waesberghe is one of them. She was born in the mother-baby-home Moederheil in Breda. She has published several books about afstandsmoeders and afstandskinderen and as a ervaringsdeskundige she is present in the Dutch media and the current investigation by the Dutch authorities.
For more information, check: https://eugeniesmitsvanwaesberghe.nl/
*Disclaimer*: Eugénie wishes to add the following to the question what happened to the babies that never were adopted: „They were supposed to be unfit for the Dutch adoption system. Nobody would want them. So you take a child away from its mum at birth and then you put it away, because you think like mother like son or daughter. Nobody can tell wether the mothers of these children have ever come to know that their baby was never adopted and often had disappeared into the system of Child services. Some babies and children died at the home, in hospital or in an institution. It is possible that there are mothers grieving for a lost child that has passed away when it was still very young, while the mum does not know. This I think is extremely cruel.“
Additional information by Eugénie: approximately 25.000 children were given away often at birth in The Netherlands between 1956 and 1984. 15.000 children were legally adopted in that period. The other 10.000 children came in various places with family, a foster home or in an institution. Some women succeeded in keeping their baby. They often had a hard time raising a child on their own because of lack of housing and money an also because of discrimination of the unwed, single mum within and also outside their own community.
Produced by Sarah Tekath in collaboration with Broadcast Amsterdam
More information: https://broadcastamsterdam.nl/shows/separated-by-force/
© Sarah Tekath/Broadcast Amsterdam
Between 1956 and 1984, thousands of unmarried, pregnant women in the Netherlands were forced to give their babies away. This podcast discovers this dark chapter of Dutch history by hearing...
show more
Between 1956 and 1984, thousands of unmarried, pregnant women in the Netherlands were forced to give their babies away. This podcast discovers this dark chapter of Dutch history by hearing the experience of the women as well as the children. Furthermore, legal experts and historians will explain the social situation during that time in order to give attention to the injustice that has been done to Dutch women and their children for decades.
Please support us by listening and sharing this podcast - so the afstandsmoeders and children can finally get the justice they deserve.
Producer and presented by Sarah Tekath
Production partner: Stichting Broadcast Amsterdam (https://broadcastamsterdam.nl)
[Photo by Molly Blackbird on Unsplash]
show less
Please support us by listening and sharing this podcast - so the afstandsmoeders and children can finally get the justice they deserve.
Producer and presented by Sarah Tekath
Production partner: Stichting Broadcast Amsterdam (https://broadcastamsterdam.nl)
[Photo by Molly Blackbird on Unsplash]
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