In this episode of the Just Listen mental health podcast, host Juliette Sivertsen speaks with entrepreneur Philip McDonald about his journey with depression.

Philip was working in a high-pressure job in the finance industry when stress began to take a toll on his mental health, especially during the Global Financial Crisis of 2007- 2008.

But it took some time for him and his partner to understand what he was going through, admitting his behaviour may have come across as grumpiness, rather than depression.

His partner Kate joins host Juliette at the end of this podcast to share her experience, how her personal understanding of mental distress has now changed, and shares some tips on being a support person.

Funded by the Mental Health Foundation of NZ, Like Minds Like Mine, supported by NZME.

You can follow host Juliette Sivertsen on social media through her Twitter at @j_sivertsen