James speaks to old school friend and fellow rugby player Paul Doran Jones about their friendship from a young age, what they got up to in their early years, and their questionable fashion sense (deep V-necks were a staple for a night out). Paul talks about his time in Ireland and training with Trinity, to being sent to New Zealand and living with next to nothing in his bank account, and then to his set up at Gloucester. He also touches on his journey into fatherhood, and the many obstacles he has faced in trying to be the best dad he can be through his experiences of the family court system.You can find Paul on Twitter and Instagram at @PaulDoranJones.You can buy James Haskell's What a Flanker, out now in hardback, ebook and audio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.