In this podcast, Series 3, Chapter 7, Dr. Barsuk interviews Dr. David Gaba, Associate Dean for Immersive and Simulation-based Learning, Director of the Center for Immersive and Simulation-based Learning at Stanford, Professor (with tenure) of Anesthesiology, Perioperative and Pain Medicine, and Founder and Co-Director of the Simulation Center at the Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System. They discuss Dr. Gaba's pioneering work in simulation and organizational safety theory and the start of the journal, Simulation in Healthcare.