The Pill Pod gets schooled by Jacobin associate editor, Shawn Gude on American socialism past and present. We talk intra-left spats, whether theorists have a purpose, and the urban/rural divide in the history of American and Canadian organized labour. Find Shawn's work here: https://www.jacobinmag.com/author/shawn-gude   More of our various creations at https://www.patreon.com/plasticpills