This is a special edition of Desperately Seeking Wisdom.

Just after we completed the third season a few months ago, Craig began began talking to Jonathan Scott Lee. In 2023, Jonathan's daughter, Caitlyn, took her own life at the exclusive Wickham Abbey School. Her tragic death was covered widely in the media and forced him to confront some hard questions about why Caitlyn did what she did. 


As a regular listener to the series, Jonathan wondered if others might like to hear about what he went through and learned; in this episode, you'll hear Jonathan is brave, thoughtful, and challenging in explaining how his neurodiversity affected him coming to terms with what happened to him and his family.

If you've been affected by discussions of suicide, you can find help at the Samaritans website: www.samaritans.org