The holidays look VERY different this year, so we really had to ask - is it even worth celebrating? Guests Kalen Allen and Matt Dempsey help us walk a very important line: getting into the holiday spirit while absolutely letting yourself be in your feelings about how different this year feels. Will there be trees and holly and a festive mood? Yes. Will there also be bursts of tears about broken traditions? Absolutely. But Alex Aiono, the Ellen Degeneres Show's Kalen Allen and psychotherapist Matt Dempsey are here to tell you it's absolutely okay - no matter how the holiday has you feeling. You'll also get the scoop on which Christmas movies are worth your time, which ones to skip, and whose opinions cause the type of Kalen reaction he's best known for. Enjoy and Happy Holidays! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.