In this second episode of the "Non-extractive future" podcast we talk about an innovative emerging model of corporate ownership, namely "Steward Ownership". During the "Transforming Owership" conference (held in Amsterdam on 5-6 October 2023) Mario Pagano interviewed Annika Schneider from the Purpose Foundation and Professor Anne Sanders from the University of Bielefeld. These interviews will now help us better understand this fascinating subject. In the final part, Nena van der Horst from the N-EXTLAW project sets out some personal concluding reflections. Enjoy the episode!