Kathleen Estes has been in worship ministry since childhood, in a career that has now spanned a few decades. And as she is entering a new season of life, she's got some powerful insights into why it can be so hard to embrace new seasons in a culture that can't seem to gracefully accept aging. Check out this fascinating episode with Kathleen and Julie Lyles Carr as part of The AllMomDoes Podcast new series on Seasons. Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3PN9FHX