Most American lawns are lovely...but not exactly an efficient use of space. What if we made the most of the land, helping to turn it into a source of sustenance for our families and communities? We could use permacultural principles to understand the land and collaborate with current ecosystems to help bring about its full potential. So says guest Jim Gale of Food Forest Abundance. On today's episode, Jim talks about how to get started with small shifts: how to decide what to plant and where to get started exactly. He also covers the importance of protecting ourselves against food shortages through better land management. And how we might cross our own mental barriers to start to explore this somewhat alternative lifestyle.   Visit Jim's website: foodforestabundance.com Register for our Wise Traditions conference at wisetraditions.org Check out our sponsors: Paleo Valley and Optimal Carnivore