In this episode, Wesley and Kharissa continue their conversation with ancestral healer, medium, and medicine man Jamari Michael White. Tune in as they discuss:
- reshaping how Christianity looks in light of Black ancestry apart from white-washed American church culture
- the necessity to hold space for Black men to feel safe, heal, and tend to their own self-care
- what we're really talking about when we use the phrase toxic masculinity
- how the inability to be alone contributes to a detrimental experience with the opposite sex
- the difference between vulnerability and transparency and how to practice both
Learn more about Jamari at blackancestralhealing.com and blackbirdsheal.com. Connect with him on Instagram at
@blackancestralhealing and @blackbirdsheal.


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