Sara and Jim sit with reproductive law guru Dean Masserman this week. Dean unpacks the latest IVF decision by the Alabama Supreme Court. The decision comes with a price which the hosts discuss at length with Dean. Should the rest of the country be worried? How do we balance unnecessary destruction of genetic tissue with the need for efficacy in a field that has helped millions of Americans have children? Decisions to restrict availability of IVF will impact traditional families, modern families, and all Americans irrespective of gender, race or age. Sara, Jim and Dean then take a deep dive into the state of abortion post overturning of Roe v. Wade. Should abortion rights be federalized? Jim then shares his experience representing doctors and hospitals in connection with legal exposure for performing abortions in his state. The episode ends with an interesting discussion about the role pro-life, pro-choice, and IVF issues will play in the upcoming elections.